----- Original Message -----
From: "ROBERT BUTLER" <rgbutler62451@yahoo.com>
To: <Editor@Educate-Yourself.org>
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2002 8:21 PM
Subject: Nancy Leider
Hi Ken,
I discovered all of this material a few
weeks ago and have been devouring it since then. I sent Nancy Leider
an email in which I sought whether this was sincerity on her part because
many people, myself included, will shortly have to make serious decisions
about how to prepare for what she says, and others, is coming. She
replied in an insulting fashion, telling me to grow up. Her analogy
was that if you watch the weather and the weather man says it will rain,
then you can't blame the weatherman if it actually rains. I find that a
trivial answer to the question of this importance. If you yell FIRE,
then you are liable for the actions taken by those who listen to you.
If these things don't happen, then she
and you and the others need to be prepared for the backlash that follows.
All she had to do was say that she sincerely believed this was going to
occur and that she was herself preparing for this by doing this and that.
What do you think about her reply and
what are you doing to prepare?
Bob Butler
----- Original Message -----
From: "Editor" <Editor@educate-yourself.org>
To: "ROBERT BUTLER" <rgbutler62451@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 3:13 AM
Subject: Re: Nancy Leider
Hi Bob,
What you need to appreciate is that Nancy Leider of ZetaTalk has been
on the receiving end of incredulous skeptics since 1995 when she first
started her web site. I've noticed that her fuse has grown shorter with
each passing year. She used to be much more patient and tolerant of questioners
such as yourself in earlier years, but one reaches a saturation point and
the
patience is no longer there.
If I received as much negative mail as she has received for the past
7 years, I'd probably have little patience with anyone who even hinted
at calling into question my sincerity or integrity. You, Bob, have just
discovered this info, but we have been dealing with the 2003 story for
a long time and have had this sort of discussion with hundreds and hundreds
of skeptical people. Dealing with skeptics gets old after a while; and
very annoying.
You need to re-examine the nature of the question that you posed to
Nancy to understand her reaction.
You asked her if she was sincere (honest) in what she wrote. How would
you react if someone asked you if you were sincere or honest about a subject
-as serious as this - presented in a 7 year running public forum on the
Internet (ZetaTalk) and published in a book? Wouldn't you be somewhat
miffed or at least annoyed with such a question? The question itself IMPLIES
incredulity and the suspicion of dishonesty (of Nancy) on your part.
You don't know the woman. You've never talked to her before in your life
and yet you come right out of the box in your very first letter to her
impuning her sincerity. Can't you recognize that you invited a terse rejoinder
because of the nature of your question? Can't you see that?
The other problem with your approach (or attitude) is that you have
assigned some sort of huge responsibility to Nancy and I for the decisions
that YOU must make. In this life, we are individually responsible for what
we do or don't do. No one else is responsible for what you do, except YOU.
You are under no obligation to read ZetaTalk or Coming Attractions. You
are also under no obligation to believe one word from either source. The
information is made available FREELY to you and to anyone else who cares
to read it on the Internet. What you choose to believe, to accept, or to
act upon is YOUR business entirely-and no one else's. It's a Free Will
universe Bob. God intended it that way.
The old rube of yelling "fire" in a crowded theater is neither accurate
nor true in this case. The attempt to parallel the two circumstances is
ludicrous. A poor and weak analogy on your part.
Concerning preparations: if you invested some time reading Troubled
Times (as I recommend in Coming Attractions) and read the messages at the
Troubled Times chat forum, you would know exactly what Nancy and the other
folks have been doing in the way of preparation for the past 7 years since
all of their data is posted there.
So this really comes back to you Bob. Your attitude and assumptions
when dealing with others pave the way for the reception you recieve. If
we approach people with a demeanor of respect and a presumption of honor,
then we usually obtain the cooperation and information we seek with far
greater ease.
You asked for my opinion and I gave it to you. I hope you don't think
that I'm implying anything derogatory about you in my answer. I wanted
to explain to you so you would understand, but have no desire to offend
you. We are all brothers and sisters in union with God. I sincerely believe
that and wish the best for all of my brethren, human and otherwise. Dark
Days may lay ahead, but the flame within your heart is the only light that
you can depend on to illumnate your path. Stoke it daily.
All information posted on this web site is
the opinion of the author and is provided for educational purposes only.
It is not to be construed as medical advice. Only a licensed medical doctor
can legally offer medical advice in the United States. Consult the healer
of your choice for medical care and advice.