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July 8, 2004
Subject: Educate Yourself
From: "William Craig" <wmcr@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, July 8, 2004 10:36 am
To: Editor@educate-yourself.org
Ken Adachi: I was hoping for an excellent reading until I got to the sentence;
" We are all IMMORTAL SPIRIT BEINGS who have lived out THOUSANDS of
other physical lives here on earth before this one. Each time we die, we return
to the spirit world and have a conference with wise counselors who review
our life's history and help us decide on the best plan for our future and
continued SPIRITUAL GROWTH. for our NEXT physical lifetime." I stopped!
My scriptures state that we only live once, and then to die.
I have heard this unfounded story before from those who cannot believe in
an immortal God, and try as I may, there is simply no reasoning to it. A person
can disbelieve in God, but he will be always going against his conscience.
One of the most difficult requirements of Christians is to love people like
you and respect your actions, knowing that you are incorrect. But we are commanded
to still have faith in you from a God who made you and all. God made you,
so who are we to condemn?
What is really important is the fact that you never know what living as a
Christian is like. As an Atheist, you think you are your commander and need
no one. Yet in reality, you do very much. You hurt yourself by being so hard
headed and caring for no one. That isn't life, that's not caring; that's selfishness!
No man is an island!
Perhaps one day God will open your eyes so you may see! I trust that He does.
Regards,
Bill Craig
Subject: Re: Educate Yourself
From: editor@educate-yourself.org
Date: Thu, July 8, 2004 12:06 pm
To: "William Craig" <wmcr@comcast.net>
Hi Bill,
You cannot coerce, force, or intimidate people into believing in a concept
or point of view. So this reply is more of a courtesy to you rather than an
attempt to change your mind. Insights are gained by internal evaluations and
judgments, not from external coercion.
Let me just state a few things for the record:
1. I am certainly not an atheist and the fact that you accuse me of such
is clear evidence that you are leading with your emotions and not with your
brains. My web site if full of references to God and I have closed off many
e-mails printed at my site with the words "God Bless". An atheist
doesn't do such things.
2. While on earth, Jesus spoke of reincarnation. The information was removed
from the Bible in 323 AD by the Council of Nicea. Ever heard of the "Book
of Jubilees"? Ever heard of the "Apocrypha"?
3. How you connect a disbelief in God with a belief in reincarnation in beyond
me. Your prejudice and lack of logic is leading the parade on that one.
4. Yes, "who are we to condemn?" Precisely. So why are you doing
that? I may or may not be hard headed, but as to not caring for people, I
let my web site (and readers) speak for me.
By the way, what are YOU doing to assist humanity beyond sending out condemnatory
e-mails shouting out your rigid and self assured view of things?
Regards and God Bless, Ken
Subject: Re: Educate Yourself
From: "William Craig" <wmcr@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, July 8, 2004 1:30 pm
To: editor@educate-yourself.org
Dear Ken:
Thank you your prompt reply and for standing up for your beliefs, even as
I know they are incorrect. Individual comments are below.
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From: <editor@educate-yourself.org>
To: "William Craig" <wmcr@comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, July 08, 2004 2:06 PM
Subject: Re: Educate Yourself
Hi Bill,
You cannot coerce, force, or intimidate people into believing in a concept
or point of view. So this reply is more of a courtesy to you rather than an
attempt to change your mind. Insights are gained by internal evaluations and
judgements, not from external coersion.
Scriptures and facts elucidate me. The Bible is my proof.
Let me just state a few things for the record:
1. I am certainly not an atheist and the fact that you accuse me of such is
clear evidence that you are leading with your emotions and not with your brains.
My web site if full of referrences to God and I have closed off many e-mails
printed at my site with the words "God Bless". An atheist doesn't
do such things.
Excellent!
2. While on earth, Jesus spoke of reincarnation. The information was removed
from the Bible in 323 AD by the Council of Nicea. Ever heard of the "Book
of Jubilees"? Ever heard of the "Apocrypha"?
I am not Catholic and would not have little knowledge of The Book of
Jubilees or the Apocrypha. Only the King James Bible has sufficiency for me.
That's all! However, if you will read Hebrews 9:11 you will know that neither
you nor I have ever been born before, nor shall we ever be born again. Words
of Christ. The King James does not mention "reincarnation" within
its covers.
3. How you connect a disbelief in God with a belief in reincarnation in
beyond me. Your prejudice and lack of logic is leading the parade on that
one.
4. Yes, "who are we to condemn?" Precisely. So why are you doing
that?
I am not condemning, only correctly informing.
5. I may or may not be hard headed, but as to not caring for people, I let
my web site (and readers) speak for me.
Again, excellent!
By the way, what are YOU doing to assist humanity beyond sending out condemnatory
e-mails shouting out your rigid and self assured view of things?
If God would allow me, I would relate what I am doing for my fellow
man. But He doesn't allow that so I cannot inform.
Subject: Re: Educate Yourself
From: editor@educate-yourself.org
Date: Thu, July 8, 2004 2:37 pm
To: "William Craig" <wmcr@comcast.net>
Hi Bill,
Very good. You shall have the last word.
God Speed, Ken
Subject: Re: Educate Yourself
From: "William Craig" <wmcr@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, July 8, 2004 4:50 pm
To: editor@educate-yourself.org
I was not looking for the last word, Ken. I just want both of us to be correct
when we use the tenets of God. I know He wants it that way. The Lord created
a church before leaving for heaven. And today that church has many factions.
Not one of them will meet His requirements but He is a forgiving God and I
cannot worry about something I can do nothing about. Most all churches are
corporations today and I know that is incorrect. For no State has power over
Lord Jesus. The church is His --- forever.
I will follow your writings if you will relate the truth as you know it,
and be subject to correction if not. Realizing that I don't know it all either!
Subject: Re: Educate Yourself
From: editor@educate-yourself.org
Date: Thu, July 8, 2004 6:24 pm
To: "William Craig" <wmcr@comcast.net>
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