----- Original Message -----
From: Leonard Ransil
To: Ken Adachi
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008
Subject: join group - but
Hi Sir,
I thought about joining the discussion - until I read your impossible
guidelines. Everyone has an agenda - a worldview, set of assumptions,
belief system - they reason from. There is no such thing as "neutral
thought" - like Secularists pretend there is.
If you want my well-reasoned, logical proof that this is so, (and why
the Secularist Worldview is so destructive to freedom of thought) you
will find it in my FREE online book (which I would be forbidden to
mention on your site.)
Thanks for Reading,
Lennysax
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Hi Leonard,
It's of no concern to me whether you join or not. As to my impossible
guidelines, I think you have projected more into it than I have.
I don't want the forum to be a babble of hot-breath debate, religion
being the most contentious topics of all, so I simply say no promotion
of religious dogma, of any stripe, nor the promotion of atheism or
secularism or satanism.
We didn't start this forum last week. This forum has been running for
6 years now and I've learned through bitter experience what is useful
and what's non-productive. The greatest turmoil of all grew out of
people who wanted to promo their dogmatism and in doing so they drew
in many people towards endless debate. We aren't going there.
The forum is intended to develop constructive ideas which will allow
people to live and survive in the years to come, and not for
contentious religious debate. What's so "impossible" about that?
If you want to promote your free on line book about Secularism, and
that apparently is the main thing on your mind, then go to chat forums
that welcome that sort of topic.
"The forum is intended to develop constructive solutions which will allow people to live and survive in the years to come, and not for contentious religious debate. What's so "impossible" about that?"
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BIG PICTURE THINKING: (learned from being a Montessori teacher - not from my American education)
Because anything of substance is based on some WORLDVIEW (a set of assumptions) which most people don't even know they have - or operate from. (Analogously, a fish does not question the water he swims in.)
To have a really objective, truthful discussion, a person's bias - WORLDVIEW - should be said up front. My FREE site offers a simple "instrument" to help people discover their WORLDVIEW. It is an effort to be as OBJECTIVE and HONEST as possible. You are welcome to "lift" and use it if you choose.
Having believed in 3 of the 8 major WORLDVIEWS in my 64 years, I believe the one I hold now is the best one - or else I would change it. Is that "dogmatism?" Since what one thinks and does is necessarily based on a WORLDVIEW, solutions do not come from a vacuum. AND not all Worldviews lead to the same solutions. Some lead to opposite ones.
I always like to know the source - set of assumptions - WORLDVIEW first. What better way to avoid "hidden" agendas (dogmatism).
Cheers,
Lennysax
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Hi Leonard,
You've really made this issue far too complicated and unnecessarily difficult. You obviously are not interested in debating religious themes. So why on earth didn't you just join and post the note about your book which is really more sociological or political in nature?
My only objection is to those who try to promote dogma of a religous , satanic, or occult bent. That has no connection to what you are talking about.
You are impeding your travel by erecting your own barriers.
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