Original title:
The Creepy Sides Of The 911 Truth Movement
Discussing first possible motivations for the 9-11 Attacks,
then possible motivations of those wanting the 911 Truth exposed. New 9-11
books and film also touched upon... ____
Watch your back, ladies and gentlemen, there are some people with creepy
agendas in the 911 Truth Movement, movers & shakers, and people with
money.
So, you say you want to help expose 911 because you think it's the crime
that will wake people in the U.S.A. up? Make them, in some vague way, rise
up against it all?
Well, watch out for the people who have much more focused, organized, funded,
and creepy visions of what to do once the truth is exposed. Don't assume
everyone in this movement is in it for the same reasons you are. There are
people who seek to expose 911 for reason X, with reason X being their true
agenda. We should look at some of these reason "X's".
Previously on this website, I've cautioned that just because someone wears
a 911 Truth Movement hat and identifies themselves as working for the cause
doesn't mean they really want 911 truth exposed as their actions and their
words may belie that label if you look close enough. And although there
are more examples of that all the time, in this piece, I'm cautioning you
about something different, to realize that just because someone wears a
911 Truth Movement hat AND may want the 911 truth exposed, doesn't mean
they want it exposed for "good" reasons. (It's possible you could
want it exposed and still be a bad guy.)
We need to know what some might have up their sleeves if what we all hope
for comes true, that we succeed in getting the 911 truth exposed. In this
way, we are preparing for success, preparing for the next step in the process,
the process, yes, of solving the ills of the masses of humanity, by also
preparing ourselves to combat the next steps of those whose solutions we
feel would cause harm and who have a leg up on us in their planning.
To examine the agendas of the movers & shakers and the wealthy 911 Truth
Movement activists, it helps to first examine what activists believe was
the motivation for the 9-11 attacks themselves. Many in the movement have
answered this question, of the motives for the attacks, differently.
Most note that the attacks have made the responding "war on terror"
pretext a household phrase. We've now got a brand new war to fight, to pour
all our resources into, the one that won't end in our lifetimes. And the
new enemy is not located in any particular country. First, they're here,
now they're over there, so it's a carte blanche enemy that the attacks have
engendered, a powerful motive for those who profit from war and misery.
And this new enemy may be right beside us in sleeper cells too, so we've
got to watch each other and be watched, which will become more helpful to
the powers-that-be as more and more of us become disgruntled.
Michael Moore
Some believe, on the other hand, that 9-11 and the "war on terror"
is really "all about oil", and to those, I recommend Jared Israel's
piece debunking Michael Moore where he demonstrates that's simply not factual,
see http://emperors-clothes.com/moore.htm
Also, while most in the movement admit that the USA created Osama and the
Mujadaheen in the 80's, they think we're talking about ancient history and
that the 9-11 attacks were only staged to defame Muslims. In fact, the USA
has never stopped sponsoring Islamic fundamentalist terror (as you'll see
if you read the links at the end of Jared Israel's Michael Moore debunking
article cited above, which also discusses the reasons for this sponsorship).
And you can see how this rings true and explains a hell of a lot when you
examine, for example, what's currently going on in Iraq, city after city,
and also how the USA is on the one hand portraying Sadr as the enemy, while
on the other, its building him up. And a devastatingly successful attack
on the USA even against its Pentagon, being billed erroneously as being
conducted by Islamic Fundamentalist terrorists, can aid in the USA's continued
recruitment and sponsorship of same, making for an effective sales pitch
to those with legitimate grievances against the belly of the beast because
the cause, fighting the u.s., doesn't look hopeless after all, considering
what they supposedly accomplished against the USA on 9-11.
Of course, there are many in the movement whose only agenda
is to tar Bush and the rest of his Republican administration, the 'anybody
but Bushies', who want nothing more than a superficial changing of the guard
even though manufactured terror is nothing new to Democratic Presidential
Administrations and even though the attacks must have been planned pre-Bush,
see http://mysite.verizon.net/vze25x9n/id23.html
It's disheartening to see so many clueless. It's as if some people just
started reading the newspaper or looked outside themselves beginning in
2001.
And there are those who use 9-11 seeking to advance an anti-Semitic agenda.
I've never in my life come across so much anti-Semitic material as when
I joined the 911 Truth Movement, and sad to say, it comes from those I would
otherwise term most militant in the movement.
Common too is the pointing, by people, who should know better that the evidence
demonstrates 9-11 was an inside job, at countries other than the U.S. as
being the true culprits, creating motivations for the U.S. to attack other
countries. Think Michael Moore and the Saudis; or Pakistan and Paul Thompson,
whose timeline based solely on mainstream corporate news reporting (you
know, what we've all learned to trust so much :-) has just been released
in book form. "Paul says either the US government was directly involved
with Pakistan and other countries in the 9-11 plot and allowed it to happen
or helped it to happen, or the US government was taken for fools and afterwards
covered up their foolishness"
Here's to hoping that ridiculous conclusion isn't published in the Thompson
Timeline book, which I've just purchased, but haven't yet read.
Peter Lance & Paul Thompson
A quick aside - I note with distress that the forward to Thompson's
celebrated 590 page book was written by Peter Lance who is also making the
rounds at 9-11 truth movement events himself, pushing his own new Terror
Cover Up book. Here's an excerpt from an interview with Lance promoting
his own new book: "Lance doesn't subscribe to the notion that U.S.
authorities intentionally allowed the 9/11 attack to occur in order to justify
the Bush administration's new, aggressively unilateral approach to world
affairs, explaining, "I'm not some conspiracy guy, I'm a hard-bitten
journalist." Instead, he attributes the cover-up to the oldest motivation
in the book - covering one's ass . . . [over] screw ups". http://www.independent.com/news/news928.htm
And sad to say, here is Paul Thompson in his book's introduction, speaking
not of governmental complicity or of an inside-job, but of failures: "Who
in our government failed in their constitutional duty to 'protect and defend'
us from these attacks? And how can we ensure that such failures will not
occur again? We must find answers to these questions. The United States
will remain vulnerable - we are not safe and we will not be safe - until
we can answer these questions, until we can call to account those who have
failed us, and until we repair institutional dysfunctions that contributed
to this failure." Simply outrageous!!
The 911 Cover Story: Is it too
Transparent?
There's also been another possible motive for the 9-11 attacks that
I've speculated about since the beginning. Have you ever wondered why the
9-11 official story was so implausible and so sloppily put together? (you
know, the simultaneous hijacking of four different planes by people armed
with mere boxcutters, the suicide notes found in luggage that inadvertently
didn't make it on the planes, Arabic flight manuals left in cars in the
airport, and a million other things they did which seem like obvious plants,
or things they didn't do or create which would have squelched many of the
9-11 skeptics early on.) It's as if they want us to see through the whole
thing. Could the perpetrators, in fact, want a 911 Truth Movement to flourish?
And if so, why?
Perhaps the perpetrators are deliberately setting up the U.S. to be the
bad guy to the rest of the world, perhaps to give the rest of the world
the notion that they'd have to consolidate to fight the sole superpower,
getting us that much closer to a one world government that so many global
elite long for. Perhaps the 'transparent 9-11 inside job/ mass murder deliberately
painted on others for a non-ending war pretext' is just a part of that,
part of the intentional plotting to have the U.S. be seen as the real rogue
nation that others must get together to fight against.
Everywhere you look, it seems, the U.S. goes out of its way, against its
interests, to put itself in the worst possible light. The U.S. could easily
have, for example, planted weapons of mass destruction in Iraq to make itself
look better, but it didn't. And the U.S. could perform identical horrible
actions around the world without the seemingly intentionally abrasive and
arrogant foreign policy pronouncements which alienate our allies' populations.
And why has the U.S. media and even governmental officials taking a liking
recently to reporting on war prisoner abuse when they've never paid such
close attention to it so close in time to it before? It's hard to believe
that the sloppiness of 9-11, and these other items, are just due to the
incompetence of those in charge, and so I speculate.
Thus, while it is only prudent to always ask, in any movement, where the
money is coming from and what are the agendas of the prominent people in
it, it is also for this additional reason that I am particularly curious
about those who seek to expose 9-11, in case that was part of the plan all
along . . . So, each time I come across one of the 911 Truth Movement funders
or movers & shakers whose raison d'etra outside of 9-11 happens to be
the advocacy of a one world government, Malthusian crap, or other weird
and scary stuff, it makes me stand up and take notice because it's occurred
to me to ask - what if a bottom line motive for the attacks was the very
EXPOSURE of the inside-job nature of the attacks so as to justify the need
for the weird and scary stuff? In other words, in the problem-reaction-solution
paradigm, (where problems are intentionally created by those who seek to
implement a ready made goal & their goal appears to be a natural solution
to the problem they in fact created) perhaps the created problem isn't the
attacks themselves, but the exposure of the attacks for what they are. To
ensure that our 911 truth exposure efforts aren't actually giving the enemy
what they want, we've got to closely examine what's going on.
Michael Ruppert
In the 911 Truth Movement Movers & Shakers department, we've got Mike
Ruppert, who will soon be releasing a new book which he says will demonstrate
gov't official complicity in the 911 attacks. It's entitled "CROSSING
THE RUBICON: The Decline of the American Empire at the End of the Age of
Oil", "a detective story that gets to the innermost core
of the 9/11 attacks. It places 9/11 at the center of a desperate new America,
created by specific, named individuals in preparation for Peak Oil: an economic
crisis like nothing the world has ever seen". Ruppert appears to be
a volunteer mouthpiece for the oil industry/gov't, who seeks to - through
911 truth exposure - spread the peak oil scam as well as make people believe
there are no viable alternative energies worth pursuing.
(See Brian Salter's post at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/cia-drugs/message/19884
as well as a couple of links at http://mysite.verizon.net/vze25x9n/id16.html.)
As Mike Ruppert has previously written: "[t]he truth is that the real
story - the only story -- is Peak
Oil and Gas, and that 9/11 was its first visible manifestation. I fight
to expose Peak Oil in part by exposing 9/11 in a way that registers in the
public consciousness. That is my obligation to my readers and - as I see
it - to my fellow man." www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/112603kennedy.html
And for creepiness, get this, Ruppert also wants to inform us that because
of "peak oil", "population reduction" is a necessity,
the only question we have to decide, he told us all at the 911 Inquiry in
San Francisco, is whether we want to do it "nice or nasty".
When I asked him at the organized Q&A session afterwards, how does one
do "population reduction" nicely, I expected the same answer he
had written about earlier: about how he advocated "the immediate convening
of political/economic/spiritual/& scientific leaders from all nations
. . . [to come up with] immediate steps to arrive at a crash program . .
. to arrive at the best possible and most ethical program of population
reduction"
But he cleaned that up a little by San Franciso (after critics pointed out
what they thought of the nations' political and economic leaders), and this
time, Ruppert indicated that he 'didn't have any plan except that everyone
in the world has to decide together'. Now, he's on his book promotion tour,
making speeches in which he quotes approvingly from past elite funded, sick
and racist eugenics supporters like Charles Galton Darwin,
whom Ruppert refers to as "distinguished".
David Ray Griffin &
Richard Falk
Another mover and shaker, David Ray Griffin, is the author of the book,
The New Pearl Harbor, beloved by many in the 911 Truth Movement
as providing a definitive 911 skeptics account, even discussing various
physical evidence claims pointing to 9-11 being an inside job. Writing his
book's forward is Richard Falk. They're often a team, David Ray and Richard,
both one world government aficionados (and I don't know about you, but I
do admit to finding one world gov't advocates creepy) who work on the same
projects and write for the same publications advocating a world government
solution.
Richard Falk, in fact, is a member of the CFR, the Council on Foreign
Relations. He's worked on new world order projects for the CFR,
like the World Order Models Project financed by the Carnegie Endowment for
International Peace and the Rockefeller Foundation. What the hell is one
to make of a CFR member wanting to expose 9-11? Another frequent writing/project
partner of Griffin is John Cobb, former senior economist for the World Bank.
Griffin and Cobb founded the Center for Process Studies which received support
from the Rockefeller Foundation. Griffin and Cobb have also co-authored
some materials with Club of Rome member Herman Daly. Griffin, himself, referred
to as the "well known theologian", has some unusual ideas about
how humanity should think about God and apparently wants us to revert to
some type of mysticism on our path to the new world order. Here's an interview
of him talking about it:
Byron Belitsos & Kyle Hence
Continuing in the movers & shakers vein, we've got Kyle Hence's partner,
Byron Belitsos, the co-founder and Board Member of 911truth.org. Actually,
we're moving into the 911 Truth Movement funders category because Byron
is also a publisher. He edited and published Jim Marrs' 911 Inside Job
book. (And in a Time-Warner-ish aside, Bryon writes in Marrs' book without
indicating he's in any way himself connected with the organization, let
alone one of its two founders: "P.S. A special note to researchers:
Be sure to visit 911Truth.org, the portal site of the leading researchers,
writers, publishers, activists, webmasters, and leaders in the 9/11 truth
movement.")
Besides being a self-proclaimed leader of the 911 Truth Movement, Byron
is another one of these one world government people and is, in fact,
releasing next month a book he co-wrote urging a world government, which
he indicates in his preface to Jim Marrs' 9-11 book is meant to really supplement
Marrs' 9-11 book: "I also felt directed to publish a second book, which
is an Origin Press companion to Inside Job. This book is entitled One
Planet: A Progressive Vision of Enforceable Global Law. I saw in an
instant that these two books go together, one stating the problem in stark
terms, and the other offering a visionary but achievable solution to the
war system--the abolition of war altogether." Here's more from Byron,
who also promotes an 'alternative bible' called The Urantia Book:
"In times of great crisis, opposites often arise together in pristine
purity. Unleash a great evil in one place, and its nemesis arises somewhere
else. Knock a dying paradigm off the world stage, and a new one kicks up
out of the blue. (PNAC-ish, right?)
. . . The Bush administration, representing the last gasp of imperialist
unilateralism in an interdependent world, is perversely teaching us one
such isolated truth: that firm enforcement of international law is needed
in a dangerous world." http://www.romancingtheuniverse.net/worldpeace.htm
Jim Garrison
Byron has also published the book of another one world government
promoter making the rounds in various 9-11 Truth Movement programs, Jim
Garrison, president of the State of the World Forum. The
book is entitled "America as Empire: Global Leader or Rogue Power?"
Nicholas Levis
Let's turn to more 911 Truth Movement funders and examine whether they have
agendas beyond the mere exposure of 9-11. Who funds various 911 Truth Movement
organizations and projects, and why? It's actually not so easy to get details
on this. Nicholas Levis, of NY (NewYork) 911Truth and one of the regional
directors of the national 911truth.org who also works on its website has
noted, for example, that: "Donors have a right to remain anonymous.
I will tell you that 911Truth.org does not accept any money with conditions
attached, except that of course all money is supposed to be spent in keeping
with the group's published mission statement." (For an aside on that
group's mission statement, see http://mysite.verizon.net/vze25x9n/id7.html
).
Lori Price
Lori Price, moderator of the 911 Truth Alliance internet riseup newsgroup,
(in which I used to participate until she kicked me off), also of CLG, Citizens
for a Legitimate Government, believes movement funding is not a question
to be addressed publicly:
-----Original Message-----
From: Lori R. Price
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 3:32 PM
To: Angie; 911truthalliance list; Nicholas Levis
I just want to know about it's organization, personnel and funding, something
I think everyone should know about when deciding whether they want to
promote an organization to others in addition to analyzing what the organization
and its personnel have already put out there.
People should NOT have to reveal the funding/supporters of their website
--to this list, anyway. Such a request should be sent privately, and if
the website owner wants to respond, or post such info to the list, that's
up to him/her to take such an action.
-Lori
Well, let's see what information has been made public thus
far.
Jimmy Walter
Jimmy Walter of http://www.walden3.org,
heir to his father's company's fortune [Walden Books] , has been pouring
LOTS of money into the 911 Truth Movement lately, although I don't have
any dollar figures. (Last year, he spent more than $250,000 on anti-war
print ads.) You know that poll of New Yorkers you've heard so much about
in the 911 Truth Movement, conducted by the famous & expensive pollsters,
Zogby? Well, he sponsored it. He's also put out a huge budget for a program
he sponsored, a New York 911 Event to be held on 9/11/04, and also paid
for press and radio advertisements for it. And on his website, he has indicated
that he would send a free copy of Eric Huftschmid's 9-11 'Painful Questions'
book to any fire station, police precinct, judge, or politician." http://www.walden3.org/painful6.htm
(If anyone lets all fire stations, police precincts & judges know of
this offer, have them email jwalter@walden3.org with their mailing address.)
So, what's Jimmy Walter's agenda? Well, check out his website, http://www.walden3.org,
but beware that your creepy-ometer will skyrocket & the hair on the
back of your neck will stand up. At least that was my reaction. It seeks
to promote "rational, planned and sustainable cities" and it promotes
its model to everyone, even fascists. "Libertarians, socialists, objectivists,
communists, fascists, capitalists, or a combination of economic systems
can use our hypothetical city-factory-machine." As Brian Salter has
advised me, "Walden3 is not a new concept. It fits a history of communitarianism
and "sustainable development" used as a cover for feudalism."
What's involved in making these "sustainable cities" work? Here
are a couple of excerpts from the website:
"The school and socialization systems train citizens in Rational
Emotive Behavior Theory [REBT], the modern, scientific combination
of Stoicism and Epicureanism. This teaches rational acceptance of life and
one's self, and how to control emotions, preventing or correcting emotional
and thinking problems early."
"When people give up these exaggerations, they acquire high frustration
tolerance, which encourages them to accept (not like) life's hardships and
other people's imperfections."
Previously, Jimmy Walter has put some of his stuff into practice with his
Life Skills Foundation which took in over $3 million dollars
in 1998 but may now be defunct. It gave "Life Skills" training
to inmates at more than 60 locations in 11 states and Great Britain:
"We believe that if you change the way people think, you change the
way they act and consequently you change their destiny . . . The Life Skills
Foundation believes that the first step toward creating a better future
is motivating people to take personal responsibility for their lives and
emotions and educating them in cognitive thinking and life management skills.
. . . Our successes have proven that society does not have a high school
dropout problem, an education problem, a job market problem, a drug problem,
a crime problem, or a street gang problem. These and countless other "problems"
that society focuses on are, in reality, merely symptoms of motivation,
cognitive, and life skills deficits."
No job market problem? Yep, it's all in our minds. It's how we react to
those jobs which are offered, that's the real problem, I guess :-).
So, is the 911 Truth Movement taking Jimmy's money without promoting his
Walden3 stuff? No, it's not. His sponsorship and website are listed in promotional
material for the 911 projects he supports and mentioned at said 9-11 events,
so his promotion of 911 Truth exposure will draw attention to his Walden3
"philosophy". He's also donated tons of anti-bush t-shirts which
contain his walden3 web address to NY911truth which sells them to raise
funds. (Another group to which he has donated these t-shirts is moderator
of the 911 Truth Alliance, Lori Price's 'anybody but bush' CLG website organization.
You can buy them here:
Thus, in return for his funds, the 911 Truth Movement is itself promoting
his stuff.
John Gray & Barrie Zwicker
Next, we've got 911 Truth Movement funder John Gray. You know him,
he's the marriage counselor/author of "Men are from Mars and Women
are from Venus" and other worldwide bestsellers, who does all
those info-commercials. He's helped financially support the Toronto 9-11
International Inquiry, has lent money to its organizer, Barrie Zwicker,
and also will be putting out television info-commercials advertising Zwicker's
just released 9-11 documentary, "The Great Conspiracy",
perhaps in a bundle with other films or materials. As Zwicker has noted:
"John is helping out financially with various aspects of the 9/11 skeptics
movement. In my own case there are no gifts. The money has to be paid back."
I saw Zwicker's new film tonight. Lots of great stuff in it, but along the
way, he sells
the "peak oil" scam; and that it is the primary motive for
the attacks; sells Ruppert -in fact, it's an unabashed commercial for Ruppert,
whom if I heard right Zwicker refers to as the very first 911 skeptic in
the world; sells Ruppert's soon to be released new book; and sells the wargame
confusion air force defense line ( http://mysite.verizon.net/vze25x9n/id8.html
re: wargames), each of which made me more than cringe.
Well, what is funder John Gray's line on 9-11? I've transcribed from audio
posted on the internet his response to a question at the Toronto 9-11 Inquiry.
You can listen to it here:
"John, in conclusion of your speech, I understood
you to say that we could heal ourselves by forgiving the government for
letting the terrorists commit the attacks. My question to you is what
makes you believe this long after 9/11 that the terrorists who committed
the attacks weren't within the U.S. government?"
John Gray's Answer:
"I've written several books on forgiveness, and whenever
anybody talks about forgiveness they always think, it's like if you have
a good excuse, then I forgive you. Like, let's say I'm late for dinner,
my wife's upset with me, and I say, but honey there was a fire on the
bridge and I rescued a child, and she say's oh, okay, that's a great excuse,
I forgive you. That's not what forgiveness is. That means she doesn't
need to forgive me because I have a great excuse. The government doesn't
have a great excuse. These are murderers. The people we really need to
forgive are the Congress that allowed them to do it, because they know
a lot of the details. And they're kind of like on the edge and they don't
know ALL the information.
So finding forgiveness for a government doesn't mean that you say that
they had good reasons for it. They didn't have good reasons for it, they're
killers and there's murderers and there's a few of them, there's not a
whole lot of them. So, we want to forgive the whole government because
they were fooled just like we've been fooled. And for those people we
forgive them as mentally ill and we put them away and we make a big show
of it. I would personally like to even, I'm always out of the box a little
bit, but I think that I would like to make a big show of it and demonstrate
through brain scans the problems with their brains. My research in the
last 10 years is about brain research, differences between men and women
and brain research.
And I bet every penny I have that if we could do live brain scans, that
these men who run that will have very inactive prefrontal cortex which
is associated with people, and this is a fact, there's people who can't
feel happy unless there's violence in front of them, unless they're dropping
bombs. And let me give you one brief example of that, in America, I know
the statistics there, 1 out of 5 boys, 1 out of a 100 girls, and 1 out
of 5 boys is taking Ritalin for ADD symptoms, which is an inactive prefrontal
cortex. But, you put 'em on a videogame with bombs and immediately the
brain starts producing more dopamine which is pleasure and their brain
begins functioning in a cogent, clear way. So what happens is these are
smart guys, some of them, some of them aren't (George Bush), but they're
smart guys, but they're unable to experience pleasure in their lives without
some sort of stimulation. And I believe that before anybody could ever
be elected to a high authority position that we should do brain scans
on their brains, make sure that their brain chemicals are normal because
these people don't have normal brain chemicals."
I wonder if any of this "forgive the whole government"
stuff will be in the television infomercials?
Brian Salter and others have done some very interesting
research into John Gray's background. See his "John GrayDossier" at
You'll also read there the unfortunate manner in which this research was
greeted by many in the 911 Truth Movement.
And the creepiness continues . . . Many in the movement also speak positively
of another past one world government/eugenics supporter, Bertrand Russell.
As Brian Salter has noted: "many in the 9/11 truth movement think that
Russell should be its model... just goes to show how frighteningly behind
the curve people are in understanding how subtle the manipulation and infiltration
of popular movements can be, and how exacting and unbending our watchdog
efforts need to be in turn http://www.questionsquestions.net/docs04/russell.html
As Brian Salter has also noted: "The other part which is even more
deceptive centers on agendas like the
Club of Rome and the elites' hijacking of environmental issues
and organizations to create a cover for eugenics, depopulation, social engineering,
and anti-development/ de-industrialization programs, as well as using "sustainable
development" as a wedge issue for "global governance"
. . . The difficulty these people have faced since World War II is posed
by the question, "How does one resurrect the eugenics/population reduction
agenda, which everyone would now associate with Hitler, in a form where
few will recognize it?" This is what should guide investigation...
I think that we are being pre-programmed to lie down and fail to resist
genocidal depopulation and precipitous global "downsizing" by
fatalistically absorbing the idea that the earth can't support the current
population anyway. . ."
I am not suggesting here that we should necessarily turn down all gifts
to the 911 Truth Movement. But I am suggesting that we continue to look
all gift horses, and prominent 911 activists, straight in the mouth, and
see what we're getting ourselves into and what we may be promoting without
even being aware of it.
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